5-Star Sleeping accomodations

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Andy, what are you thinking as far as sleeping gear? I was thinking an army cot with sleeping bag, so I'm not on the ground with the "critters". Sleep in the open roadside if weather is OK. Pop a tarp over if it's raining or likely to dew. Any ideas you have chewed on? (An army cot weighs about 24lbs, folds to around 42-in long by 8-in diameter.)

I'm still nurturing the idea of a light motorcycle-spec trailer too. A Capri ain't a truck. If we expect to see out the rear window, we'd better have roof stowage, and perhaps tow a mini box on a ball hitch. Food, camp gear, clothing, spares, tools, a bit of fuel, it all adds up... without a lorry, we have to be self-contained. Thinking aloud, "blue skying", quite open to ideas here.

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Ah Norm, you have hit on a particular concern that has occupied my thoughts for some time ... I mean for us more mature ralliers i.e not twenty something anymore; good grub and a good nights sleep are essential to a successful holiday let alone endurance drive across a third of the world and back in a not particularly luxurious vehicle!  So sleeping and eating have vexed me for some time, but I have arrived at some plausible solutions:

The ultra lightweight rally raid kit

Rally Raid Kit: 2kg 2- man tent, 3/4 length thermarest & 1150g 2 - 3 season sleeping bagRally Raid Kit: 2kg 2- man tent, 3/4 length thermarest & 1150g 2 - 3 season sleeping bag

Solo Cook Kit: coleman gas stove & spare cartidge, water bottle, chopped down wooden spoon, McDonalds cutlery, cleaning stuff and a couple of old socks to stop it rattling!!Solo Cook Kit: coleman gas stove & spare cartidge, water bottle, chopped down wooden spoon, McDonalds cutlery, cleaning stuff and a couple of old socks to stop it rattling!!Solo kit packed: packs up reasonably small and weighs almost nothingSolo kit packed: packs up reasonably small and weighs almost nothing

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This kit is good, but we would need two of everything, which would take up some of the weight and space gains anyway ... and to be honest, this is ok for a fast short raid over a long weekend ... but three weeks and 10,000 miles ... ??? ... I don't think so! Too small, cramped, claustrophobic and limiting ...

So a rethink followed ...

The Endurance Rally Kit  

Endurance Rally Kit: 5kg 3 man tent, full length self-inflating Karrimats & sleep mats, 2 season roomier sleeping bags with 800g Vango bags to use doubled up on cold nights, or to carry if we bin the car and have to walk out! Not that that is an option...Endurance Rally Kit: 5kg 3 man tent, full length self-inflating Karrimats & sleep mats, 2 season roomier sleeping bags with 800g Vango bags to use doubled up on cold nights, or to carry if we bin the car and have to walk out! Not that that is an option...Mostly Army Surplus - simple, reliable, bomb proof: Swedish Army issue Trangia burner with canteen, windshield, Bundeswehr canteen, Sigg fuel bottle, '58 pattern British Army Waterbootle and Crusader (metal) mug, and US waterbottle and metal mug - kits pack into a respirator pouch with room for brew kit :)Mostly Army Surplus - simple, reliable, bomb proof: Swedish Army issue Trangia burner with canteen, windshield, Bundeswehr canteen, Sigg fuel bottle, '58 pattern British Army Waterbootle and Crusader (metal) mug, and US waterbottle and metal mug - kits pack into a respirator pouch with room for brew kit :)

Trangia Kit packed: plenty of room for utensils and brew kit; food etcTrangia Kit packed: plenty of room for utensils and brew kit; food etc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The trouble with Trangia kit, either civilian or military  - it is either on or off - you put meths in, you set light to it and you cook on it.  No moving parts, nothing to break - brilliant! On the other hand, it doesn't burn in a controllable way ... so probably worth while as a back up ... but if we are to eat anything other than boil in the bag ready meals ... a further rethink required ...

Portable Chef's Kit

Portable Chef's KitPortable Chef's KitPortable chef's kit packed ...: Takes up a little more space but gives controllable heat and whole kitchens' worth of pots and pans and with the addition of a hob lighter and bottle/can opener .... fine dining awaits!Portable chef's kit packed ...: Takes up a little more space but gives controllable heat and whole kitchens' worth of pots and pans and with the addition of a hob lighter and bottle/can opener .... fine dining awaits!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are Camping Gas cartidges available in Barnaul? For a replen before Mongolia? 

Of course the alternative approach ...  

Any one for tea... in Mongolia?

Anyone for tea ... in Mongolia?: we better pack a white table cloth and black tie (tux) ...Anyone for tea ... in Mongolia?: we better pack a white table cloth and black tie (tux) ...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On a serious note, which ever option we go for, and I really don't think the ultra light rally raid option is viable for this length of trip, we are going to need a roof rack and bag/box. By the time we add in 2 x 20L Jerry Cans of Fuel and 2 x 20L Jerry cans of water, two spare wheels and tyres, some spare springs, dampers and a other mechanical spares ... I think you are right ... a trailer of some sort might be needed ... but if that is the case ... you better work your magic and find some one to build one strong and light! Of course, a trailer might bugger up the handling ... no sideways action for you!  tee hee hee Laughing

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Re: 5-Star Sleeping accomodations

My 2 cents.

I used a Trangia kit with the multifuel bottle (sponsored by trangia)

The coleman 2 man tents are good quality/value/weight (2.2kgs)

I use an EXPED goose down DLX9 inflatable matress and get a half decent sleeping bag.

40 litres of water (40kgs) is over the top

My bike had a 250-300km range, I carried 5 litres spare with me from Turkey and only used the reserve twice (but fill your tank at every oppotunity)

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thanks Matt!  Have you fully recovered from your heroics yet? Email me when you are next visiting London.  I want to buy you a pint!  

I did think two jerry cans worth of water might be a bit much. Probably settle for a 15 litre collapsible water carrier.  I wll probably carry two fuel cans though -although not full all the time  - only in the remotest parts!   It all depends on what mileage/range I am getting from the Capri on some test runs when I finally get it finished.  Obviously I would prefer to carry only one jerry can 'cos of space and weight.

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Hi Speedbird,

No, I havent fully recovered from my antics yet, I broke myself on the rally and needed surgery. It will take a few more months before im right again, but I did manage to have an hours ride a few days ago (just to see if I could!). Im hoping to get to London sometime this year, Im just not sure when. I will deffo send you a mail when im in the area.

Keep it real.

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anytime you are in town let me know .. mi casa su casa ... Wink
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